Found these. Never seen these lighter/torches before. Finally found a butane lighter with some beef to it. These are great. Big. Big. Big. Big frame, big flame. Heavy. Great for soldering, wood stoves, camp fires. I love it. I ordered 3 total. Great price.i ordered online. My order was ready to pick up in 20 minutes. Great counterman at the store. Nice guy, polite, knowledgeable of the product. I will continue to purchase from this company. Thanks. 👍 👍